02: Heavy Metal Detox Done Right
Transcript of Episode 02: Solutions Heavy Metal Detox Done Right Part 2
With David Asarnow and Warren Phillips.
David: Hello this is David Asarnow here, with Warren Phillips, CEO of Health Centers of the Future. Now, I know many of you were expecting Dr. Pompa today. However, technology happens, and when technology happens you have to deal with what emerges and unfortunately for Dr. Pompa, he was having some internet challenges. However, fortunate for you, you actually have someone who has become a very dear friend of mine. Who actually knows this information (as far as heavy metal detox) inside and out, left and right, forwards and backwards.
Warren messes up live feed and they joke about it Everyone, we have a very large treat for us today because Warren Phillips has lived this. The reason that he’s on this mission to transform people’s lives, especially when it comes to heavy metal detox and mold and other things, is because he’s lived it himself. So, Warren, welcome to today’s webinar.
Warren: Thank you. You know, I just got off the phone with Dr. Pompa. I’ve actually written articles on heavy metal detoxification in the past, and it’s my story. If you go to DrPompa.com, heavy metal detox done right which is part two or part three is being released in a few weeks, but I actually did an interview with Dr. Pompa on there and my background is actually in toxicology and chemistry and I cleaned up heavy metals mostly in my job as an environmental consultant. For over eight years, I cleaned up heavy metals in abandoned mines and in pulp mills [wood manufacturing] where they use Mercury to do certain processes in and a bunch of other things. Old gasoline spills that contained lead- if you remember back in the day there was lead in gasoline to make sure the knocking didn’t happen in the engine. I was heavily exposed to heavy metals and I got very sick at a young age and at about 25 years old my life, literally, was completely gone as I know it. I pretty much lost my life, and I didn’t have anywhere to go, anything to do, I couldn’t even work anymore. I had to sell everything that I had, leave the “man cave” of the world, if you will, Missoula, Montana- the playground for young men to hunt, fish, fly fish, the river runs through it. I had it all; I had a great church, I had great friends, I was popular, I was successful, everything, and I absolutely lost it all. I didn’t realize that after losing it all, I’d gain so much in that process. However, the road to get there was long and painful and it required a lot of faith and trust and divine intervention, in my opinion, and meeting someone like Dr. Pompa, and lucky for me his wife is my first cousin and as she listened to me complain about my aches and pains, my sleepless nights, my anxiety, my gut issues, my gut pain, fibromyalgia symptoms, brain fog, irritability, treating people improperly and not knowing why, she dealt with it all, you know, and she said “You’re sick, and you need to see my husband.” Well, you “natural health practitioners” in my opinion, and maybe you people watching at this time are thinking, “well that stuff’s not real.” We had some exchanges but eventually because of persistence and prayers I was able to break through and listen to Dr. Pompa and get some solutions and get on the right path, and that’s a longer story.
David: Well, here’s the great thing, because of your healing story, you’re now heading up the mission with him to transform lives of other people who are suffering from some of the same things that you did.
Warren: Yeah, Dan and I went all over the country when I came on board with him he was very sweet; he slipped me literature because he knows of my science background. You’ll see in the interview on drpompa.com “Heavy Metal Detox Done Right” there’s a 35-minute interview, so I’m not going to get into the details of all that. However, because of my science background—my Masters Degree in Geology but it focused on Toxicology and Chemistry—believe it or not, my Masters thesis was “The Binding of Heavy Metals in Anoxic Sediments” (anoxic meaning no oxygen—“an” in Greek means “no”) so no oxygen in sediments. I had to throw a little Greek prefix knowledge in there for you. But anyway, that’s what I studied—the binding of heavy metals in sediments. I did all kinds of great research on that so he knew that if he’d start slipping me research… Dr. Pompa’s brilliant, right? So he knows how to get the people in certain mindsets, and I started reading the research, and you’ll read this in the interview, but I told Dan “Hey, that’s me in this literature” and he said “Yeah, I know.” And then from that point on he gained my trust and got credibility and I realized that the real science was sitting over here—maybe not necessarily in health practitioners but in people who do care, the people who know how to make a difference in people’s lives, and that there’s research being done to help these people, and that was me. So he starts giving me supplements, he starts adjusting me, resetting my autonomic nerve system which was out of wack, and then as the path went on, instead of going back to my previous profession, I turned down a lucrative position, actually, to work at his front desk, because I knew in my heart this is where I needed to be. His wife always says, and Dr. Pompa says “from pain to purpose”. I knew that God had a plan for my life and I remember my pastor, actually, before I left Missoula Montana, he said “Warren, you’re not running from something” (which is my pain—I really lost everything when I was there—I had to sell it all) “you’re going to something” and that statement meant so much to me and the confirmations along the way were so great, and then meeting Dr. Pompa and the solutions we had and the fun we had… We actually suffered together, at times, with our health challenges, but we traveled all over the country driving and seeing natural health practitioners that were doing different things like heavy metals right, at some level, or doing biotoxic illness or lime or cellular treatment, and over time—over years and years of research and expertise and just doing things and being active and suffering ourselves—not just saying hey I’m going to try these things on a patient, but actually experiencing and knowing what it feels like to go through the things that we now use. I got my life back, and through that process, obviously, I’ve been lit on fire, I’m super passionate, and I will do this to the day that I die—serving this mission, opening up this epidemic and making it aware to the world because it’s true, it’s real, and you can get real solutions and make a massive difference in your life and you can get your life back—that’s my goal.
David: Thank you. So let’s go into heavy metal detox—what can happen if it’s not done correctly?
Warren: Well, heavy metal detoxification is misunderstood in so many ways. You’ll read in the article that in the natural health world, a lot of people think “well, I’m gonna do this secret combination super heavy metal detox using a bunch of herbal chelators—cilantro, things like that” and that’s going to create a heavy metal detoxification pathway. I know from my science background that if these things chelate or truly remove metals… the chemical structure in a plant—like if you use chlorella or certain herbs—they’re very weak in their ability to grab on and pull these heavy metals out of your body. So in that process, a lot of this herbal chelation that’s out there that you can find online actually cause more problems and don’t remove the heavy metals, they kinda stir it up, and I think Dr. Pompa talked about that last time, it was that the street sweeper just comes along and stirs it up. So if not done properly, if you follow some of the herbal or other chelation protocols out there and not the ones that we use at Health Centers of the Future that we train our doctors across the country on, you can cause more problems, because heavy metal poisoning is brain poisoning. So if you don’t do it right, it can cause a lot of problems and a lot of symptoms and not get you to where you ultimately want to go which is getting your life back.
David: Well, where do heavy metals start, then? Because you hear about it and obviously think “well, mercury and amalgam” and there’s some people who think the ADA still uses them, and we could talk about that later. But besides mercury in the fillings, where else are the heavy metals out there? Warren: They’re all over the place. But you know what, I want to address right away, to remove a mindset here, with folks—if you trust the ADA, if you trust the FDA, if you trust anyone besides yourself for your health, you’re missing it, and I’ll tell you why—because your best interest is not to get you well, it’s to keep you in the models that you need to make money. So again, these companies—there’s a lot of money involved, there’s a lot of government policy involved, and there’s a lot of backlash involved. So never trust someone else with your health. You gotta research and figure it out for yourself and make your own decisions and continue to make those decisions over and over again. So, heavy metals, let’s get right into amalgams, and I’ll get into the other sources, but amalgam fillings—I’ll give you a great example (and I do say some of this in the video but I’ll elaborate more now for the public). Heavy metals, like in mercury amalgam fillings, are 50% mercury in an amalgam, and they say it’s stable, but it’s not. Every other country has banned it; for good reason. You can’t put them in children, and I think they finally did that here in the states but they might have reversed that too and oh, guess what? It’s the only thing that insurance covered here in America is the mercury amalgam filling, and now they’re starting to change that a bit. But the mercury amalgam fillings—the silver fillings that are in your teeth (just to be specific, that’s what we’re talking about)—they offgas massive amounts of mercury. So, just to put it in perspective, if I drank a hot cup of coffee, and (you can buy these—I’ve used them) you put a meter in my mouth, that would sample the air—the breath in my mouth—after I drank a hot cup of coffee, it would exceed the EPA, according to a government agency air quality standard, by 20 to 100 times depending on the amount of amalgams in your mouth. The air that I’m breathing exceeds 20 to 100 times—it’s not a lethal dose of mercury at that point—it’s not going to kill you, but that mercury is vaporizing, going up through your nasal cavities, and making its way up into your brain. So, if that’s not evidence enough, let me give you another story—the waste stream from a dental office. I actually called companies when I first found out about this. I didn’t believe it. How could the government, this government that’s here to protect me and serve me, how could they be lying? How could they allow these things in my mouth that are poison. So I didn’t believe Dan, even though he’s helped me so much, even though I’ve read the research, I had to call a laboratory—I used to help test heavy metals in sediments and in water. I called a company in Idaho that I used to work with when I lived in Missoula Montana, and actually I ran duplicate studies of my urine that I sent out to doctor’s data, I ran duplicates, I analyzed this stuff—David, you know my personality—it has to be real or it has to be true and I won’t believe it unless I can see it in the data. So I used to run duplicate samples sending my samples as I did a heavy metal challenge test, which Dr. Pompa and the doctors that we train do. I thought the company that ran my urine sample during the challenge test to see how much mercury is in my tissues and organs was lying because I didn’t believe it. That’s how skeptical I was, so for you skeptics, I’m the greatest skeptic when it comes to science.
David: By the way, I DO know that you are the greatest skeptic. Until you have all the details, and all the science and all the facts you will not move forward on anything.
Warren: I won’t, and that’s just my personality and it’s how God created me, and it’s good because you can see in my eyes I’m telling you the truth, and you guys need to hear the truth. The truth will set you free when it comes to these topics, these things are killing people, killing Americans. To finish off this story, what happened is I called the laboratory and I said, “Hey, do you ever deal with amalgam fillings?” because I knew it was considered hazardous waste when it hit the dental tray and they said, “Yes we do, as a matter of fact, we have a dental office in…” I think it was an aviation facility or a base in Spokane, Washington. What they have to do to dispose of the mercury once it’s pulled out of your mouth in the same form that it was in your tooth—so it didn’t change, it’s the same thing that hits the dental tray—now it’s classified as hazardous waste. In order to dispose of that waste, they have to collect it in a special thing with a no touch technique, seal it underneath water or a special liquid so it doesn’t offgass and poison the environment of the dental office, and to dispose of it they have to come in special to pick it up, it has to be characterized through testing, which this lab did as hazardous waste and how leechable is it—it’s called toxicity characterization leeching procedure—a t-clip analysis, then it has to be disposed at a high-class class 3 landfill that has special lining in it so that toxins don’t leech out and that leechate is captured and pumped and treated. So, the amalgam filling is hazardous waste—has to be disposed in a special landfill under special techniques, has to be characterized and followed through government policies “cradle to grave”, it’s called, it’s a RCRA law—I’m throwing out a lot of big words, I know.
David: No, this is important, it’s very important.
Warren: Isn’t it crazy? It’s nuts, and they still put it in our mouths in America. I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous, it’s ludacris, it’s unbelievable.
David: So, they put it in our mouth. However, once it comes back out of the mouth the dentist can’t touch it, they can’t have the vapors in the office, and it’s gotta be treated as hazardous waste.
Warren: It is, and it’s some of the deadliest hazardous waste out there, and it does leach, and the t-clip analysis—when they shake it up in the light… it’s in a solution of slight acidic water and essentially the t-clip is they shake it for so many hours—I think it’s 8 hours, I can’t remember, it’s been so many years since I’ve done one. I actually used to do these in the laboratory myself, so I understood the procedure very well when I did my masters degree I did a lot of t-clip analysis. They shake it up, and then they measure that water after they shake it in a diluted solution and it’s full of mercury. And, on top of that, the laboratory told me the waste stream has to be captured outside of this office meaning that water in the little cup when you spit—that waste stream that comes out through their sewage system—had to be captured and treated because it had so much mercury in it. So it had to be measured, and the amount of mercury exceeded water quality standards. They probably diluted it and dumped it back in the river. However, it had to be captured and treated before it could be put back into the waste stream. It was a government aviation facility so they had stricter regulations there, but isn’t that funny? Dentists’ offices are not only polluting the air with the mouth of their patients, they’re also killing themselves, as a matter of fact, dentists have the highest suicide rate of any profession, and it’s not from the pressure of being a dentist. It’s from the mercury that their doing this with, because one of the things is it can cause you not only to be infertile (which the dental assistants are number one or number two in being infertile) but then the dentist, the DMD, has the highest suicide rate. So if that doesn’t tell you the onslaught…
David: Oh my gosh. And this is what he was talking about last time, about the mad hatter, remember? It’s funny, I’m putting two and two together on a lot of things right now and you have no idea, you’re talking about this and it’s like light bulbs are going off in my head and I know a dentist, actually my former step-dad, who was in his early sixties (maybe just sixty) and got esophageal cancer and when you think about this—mercury, amalgam… I’m putting a lot of things together right now.
Warren: It’s huge, you know, mercury (I don’t know if it’s #1 or #2) but this is where Dr. Pompa’s mind and ability to research and do what he does on a daily basis to serve this mission. I know that mercury, when it attaches to the cell membrane, causes massive inflammation. It might be number one or number two out of all the toxins that causes that cell membrane… and R1 is Remove the Source. So that mercury molecule that touches the cell causes massive inflammation around that cell membrane, and what is inflammation of the cell membrane, though? What does that do, David? I have to ask you a question.
David: Well, inflammation of the cell does a lot of things, but before I forget what you just talked about—there’s a video online, if anyone wants to see it, they can Google “Smoking Tooth,” and if you want to see how when they used special kinds of cameras that they can look at and they can measure how much mercury vapor is actually coming off the tooth in the mouth. So they can watch this science-based information. The other thing is that you just talked about what happens when mercury hits a cell and inflammation happens. Well actually there’s another video online along that—and I don’t know the name of the video and you may—where they actually just take and look at all the neurons that come off and…
Warren: I know what you’re talking about I cant remember the name. But it shows how the mercury degenerates the nerve.
David: Literally they take one little speck of mercury and, I mean, it’s such a little amount, and they just touch it to the end of the nerve and all of a sudden the nerves go woosh and it shrivels up instantly.
Warren: Yep, nerve degeneration. That’s why we hit the main source with what we do. We don’t sit there and say, “Hey, do a colon cleanse and you’re gonna get your life back.” As a matter of fact, one of Dr. Pompa’s best friends who’s a friend of mine, Dr. Jeff Abrams, was just telling me that his wife has some challenges and I don’t want to say what those challenges are but she was going to go to this boutique detox thing, or a lot of people do the detox cruises. On those cruises they do those colonics, those foot baths… That’s what people think true detoxification is. They think they’re getting rid of their heavy metals. They might put on some herbal tea later or something like that and now all of a sudden they’re going to get their life back because they went to a boutique detox spa. Well, let me tell you—if you have a health challenge, don’t waste your money on a detox spa. You’re taking the easy way out. To get rid of heavy metals, there’s a process and a way to do it and our doctors are trained to do it across the country, and you think it takes a few days at a detox spa, but it takes years.
David: There’s a question that I have and then I want to get in to mercury chelation and amalgam removal and all that. Many people say, “Okay, mercury. Then I can put a gold tooth in my mouth.” Does that cause problems or is that safe?
Warren: That can be a big disaster, because you can go from (and in another article I think we wrote that) from bad to disaster, or something like that. It’s bad enough, David, that you have mercury amalgams in your mouth and then sometimes they go, “Well I don’t want mercury, doctor, I want something else what can you do? I don’t want composite I want gold.” So they remove the amalgam, say you have four silver fillings. You remove one of the amalgams because they need to be replaced or you decide to get it removed improperly, which you don’t need to do. Do not run out there.
David: Well we’re going to talk about that.
Warren: I’m just saying that right away, I’m probably going to say that three or four times throughout this hangout. But if you get a gold crown, what you create is called a Galvanic reaction, and so what that allows the mercury to do, it changes the electrons, essentially, in the amalgam filling to allow the vapor to be released at, I think it’s, 2 to 10 times faster, or it might be 5 to 10 times or around there—I don’t know the exact stats. But up to 10 times more of the amount of mercury will be coming out of your mouth so usually when you have mercury amalgams just sitting in your mouth and you just sat there like this *open mouth* not a ton of mercury coming out. You start chewing, mercury comes out. If you put hot coffee in, lots of mercury comes out of it. If someone touches it, like with your toothbrush, or anything like that, you’re stimulating it. It’s causing the electrons to move around, causing some heat, so it offgasses. But if you put a gold crown in your mouth, or a gold filling, you cause that Galvanic reaction to occur. So normally if you didn’t have that gold crown in there, the leeching wouldn’t be as great, but when you stick that in, just sitting there all day long you’re creating a Galvanic reaction that’s pulling massive amounts of mercury vapor out of your mouth and out of your silver filling. It’s disaster in your life.
David: Let’s talk about safe heavy metal chelation and mercury amalgam removal. So why must you have mercury amalgam safely removed from your teeth prior to beginning heavy metal chelation?
Warren: Well, there’s two parts to this. I’m just gonna walk through the whole process (and it’s in the article) and I’m going to do it quickly because we only have about another five minutes on this hangout, but you have to do a number of things—you can’t just go get your fillings out after watching this video. I highly recommend getting a doctor that knows how to do it properly and to prepare you, walk you through the process and, two, getting a dentist. You can go to iaomt.org and find a dentist that’s trained in proper heavy metal…
David: What was that again?
Warren: I-A-O-M-T dot org. It’s an organization that’s been created (I think it’s out of Canada) that’s created to educate people on (they’re the ones who created the “Smoking Tooth” video, as a matter of fact) on the dangers of heavy metal mercury amalgam poisoning and it’s incredible. It’s ruining lives, and there’s people that are standing up and saying “No” and this is one of those organizations. There’s a lot of dentists that have now been trained properly there, but I would still interview them. When you get a practitioner, one of the Health Centers of the Future practitioners to help you, they still question these doctors to make sure that they’re really truly doing it right. Just because they went to one of the seminars doesn’t mean they can do it right, correct? So three step process—First you have to prepare your body before you can get the amalgams removed.
David: By the way, this is key because most people don’t do this three step process, and I know the Health Centers of the Future doctors, they have a very fine process to prepare the body first.
Warren: Correct, and that has to be done because you can’t take a risk. This stuff is poison. As you said, if you get it near a neuron in your brain it’s going to degenerate your brain, just like that, and it’s hard to rebuild your brain. Those cells do not replace like your skin cells when you get scratched. You know, your brain is hard to repair. The cells don’t replenish—they have to rebuild. It’s dangerous—you can’t mess around with this stuff. You can’t take any risks, you know, you have to do it right. You have to prepare your body, you have to prepare your detoxification pathways, you have to prepare your liver and kidneys, you have to make sure right after the amalgam’s out, you flush out your gut and system, either through a colonic or a vitamin C flush so there’s no pieces of mercury that could possibly get into your digestive system and get back into your bloodstream or into your body again. This is critical to repair the body, and then right before the amalgam removal you have to do some things as well. You have to take carbon, so that if there’s any high levels… we have a product called Bind to bind any mercury that may chunk out during the removal, and then there’s a process through the dental office of what the dentist has to do to protect you and himself—oxygen, all those things—it’s in the article. Then after that there’s a protocol that you need to follow with the Vitamin C flush, and I don’t wanna get into the details of that, but I always like to say it’s a three step process—prepare, removal, post removal, and now you can truly start chelation. Some of the things you have to worry about is if you have a crown there might be an amalgam underneath it. So you really gotta look at all the things, and I can’t explain it all, that’s why you need a Health Centers of the Future practitioner or a practitioner that’s trained on proper heavy metal chelation and amalgam removal to walk you through the process. It’s impossible for you to do this on your own.
David: How long does chelation take?
Warren: Heavy metal chelation, for me, I didn’t answer that question earlier. You could be poisoned a lot of different ways and heavy metal poisoning, specifically mercury poisoning, as we’re discussing now, is brain poisoning. So you can get a lot in your body, which can circulate around and get into your brain, but brain poisoning is what causes the “mad as a hatter”, right? It’s the nerve degeneration, the confusion, a lot of the brain inflammation is what happens—that’s what causes the behavior change, that’s what causes the hormone disregulation, I mean mercury works its way up into the hypothalamus and pituitary which are the control towers for the whole hormonal system. So that can take years to get out because your brain has a blood brain barrier to protect you, but it’s also hard to drip it out so it can take years to do it. You know, and say the number one source of mercury (it’s in the article) a lot of the times could be your mom. My mom had fourteen amalgam fillings, so I was born (and the studies show it) with tons of mercury in my brain and all my organs and tissues, so I was born bad. I only had a few silver fillings, but I also had a lot of heavy metal (I would call it) environmental exposure. So that’s how I got mine. Some other top exposures…
David: By the way, boys get it more than females do, don’t they?
Warren: Yes, and that’s because estrogen has a protective effect and testosterone has the opposite effect, it has a (David: a drawing effect) …effect you. Dr. Boyd Hailey has done a lot of research on that, with mercury poisoning and autism. Dr. Boyd Hailey—incredible man on a mission. He’ll fire it and speak truth all day long, so he’s another great doctor out there and researcher, actually he’s a medical doctor, I believe. He does a great job. So in the 80’s, the number one exposure was Mercurochrome in eye solution. They used it because mercury kills everything (including your neurons) but it kills everything so they use it as a preservative.
David: Oh my gosh, I remember they used to put Mercurochrome on open wounds to disinfect it.
Warren: Yeah, cause it kills everything, right? So that’s what they did. Do you think there’s a reason why that’s gone? But you got a lot less exposure there than you did from your mercury amalgam fillings, so again, if you think there’s a conspiracy but you’re not a conspiracy theorist, there’s so much evidence to back this up. Every other country has banned amalgam fillings—Belgium, Holland, many of the European countries and then there’s America and our drive—our drive for success and money and in driving this system forward, we’re killing our people and it doesn’t matter, and it should matter. So it is a crime, it is against the constitution, in my opinion, to poison people this way. It needs to be stopped, and the thing that we have right now until something changes on the Internet, we have the power to educate and bring awareness.
David: Okay, this just hit me why they don’t stop it—because the ADA and the malpractice insurance can’t afford the lawsuits that people would get because of the dentist putting it in their mouth, and they couldn’t afford just to take it out. So this pandemic is out of self-preservation that if they say that they’ve now discovered that it’s bad, all these people are going to start screaming out and all these class action lawsuits are going to kill the industry.
Warren: Yeah, well, and that’s why, because there’s lobby groups that stop that. However, in my opinion, if someone would stand up, you could have a hurricane that would cost the government billions of dollars and cause more debt maybe sometimes trillions or whatever it may cost, but, you know, there’s a hurricane that’s happening in our mouths every day that needs to be cleaned up as well. There needs to be repair after devastation—there are lives being lost. At some point, someone needs to say something.
David: It’s sort of like asbestos. I mean, still, to this day, there’s asbestos lawsuits going on and they knew that that wasn’t good for people’s health, and they still put it in insulation in buildings and now they’re going out and systematically removing it.
Warren: And, by the way, fiberglass isn’t much better, just so you know. It’s still poisonous and it can cause lung cancer and things like that as well. There’s a lot of evidence on that so in the future, you’ll be seeing that phase out as well—you heard it here first. I can get into all that stuff as well.
David: So I know we’re bumpin’ up against time, so here’s what I wanna ask. What happens if people don’t chelate after removal?
Warren: You may have what Dr. Pompa explains as the “honeymoon period.” He’s worked with hundreds and hundreds of patients that have done this and went out and just got their amalgams removed. There will be like a one month lift where they’ll feel better, if properly removed, and then if you don’t chelate, three or four months down the road you are gonna get lots of symptoms. You’re poisoning your body, it’s gonna start recirculating, and…
David: And then it’s settling somewhere, isn’t it? (Pointing to head)
Warren: It is, and you’re setting yourself up for years of pain and suffering and I don’t wanna say the C-word, but…
David: There’s a lot of challenges that could happen.
Warren: Challenges- there’s a lot of challenges. I don’t want this video being taken off air, but, you know, if mercury attaches to the cell and causes inflammation, inflammation causes all kinds of conditions, and ones that are very scary. So you need to chelate properly after amalgam, or proper amalgam removal, even a proper one. No matter how great of lengths you prepare your body, no matter if you get the best dentist on the planet, no matter if it’s a biological dentist, an IOAMT dentist, it doesn’t matter. There’s amounts of mercury that still come out and once these amalgams are removed, your brain realizes “the source is gone, I’m gonna start detoxing.” Heavy metals start to pour out of your brain, your body starts trying to release it, and that causes a lot of circulation in systems.
David: So that’s why you need the chelation, and that’s why you need to be able to tie that together with a binding material like BIND that will then trap it in the gut and remove it from the body safely.
Warren: That’s right after the removal that you have the BIND, so that the pieces and particles that might get in your digestive tract, the BIND binds it in the gut, but post amalgam removal what you have to use is a treated chelator. There’s two treat chelators on the market they have a double (theo?) group, like a little crab claw, and when they bind to mercury or lead or other heavy metals, it’s a permanent bond. You cant take acid, you cant shake it up, you can’t get it to break free. Nothing in your body would be able to do that. You don’t have the chemistry in your body to break that bond. So true heavy metal chelators—DMSA, Dicaptimer sicinic acid—it’s a synthetic but you can get it over the counter, we actually sell it on our website. I wouldn’t recommend buying it from us unless —
David: …You have a professional walking you through.
Warren: Absolutely. You know I’m not here to sell supplements, I’m here to transform lives. We sell it to the patients that we work with. Then there’s DMPS, which can only be purchased through a script and sometimes biological dentists will write that script but the difference is that DMPS—now, listen to me—has to be taken every 8 hours because it has an 8 hour half life — meaning how it stays in your system in your bloodstream for 8 hours. Let me put that in perspective: if you drank alcohol, it stays in your system for an amount of time and then your body processes it and it comes out, right? Same thing with different drugs that you take and even supplements and things that you’re taking—they come into your body and then they stay for a certain amount of time and they go away. Your body processes them. DMPS stays in your body about 8 hours, and in that 8 hours it’s removing metals. DMSA stays in your body about 4 hours, and the reason that I say that is because a lot of people do heavy metal chelation protocols out there, even natural health practitioners and medical doctors, and they just say take one DMSA a day or take one DMPS a day or do this IV chelation and then we’ll do that once a week for six months and then all your heavy metals will be gone and you can go on with your life and you can be, “Happy, happy, happy!” as to quote Duck Dynasty, but that’s not true. You are setting yourself up for major symptoms and more circulation and the main, scary things is when you circulate heavy metals in the body, they land in the brain. And again, mercury poisoning is brain poisoning. That’s the hypothalamus, the pituitary, the endocrine fall out. The endocrine system crash is what causes a lot of the symptoms and behavioral problems and nerve degeneration. Mercury poisoning has been linked to MS, it’s been linked to Dementia, huge for Dementia, obviously “mad as a hatter” but anxiety, depression, a lot of those things. Mercury is heavily linked to that. My mom struggled with depression and she had her amalgams removed but she’s never properly chelated and again, you can’t change your family, you just have to watch them and love them and support them no matter where they’re at like I love and support you and everyone listening to this video no matter what you choose I’m just gonna tell you the truth and what you do with the truth is up to you.
David: Well Warren, this has been unbelievably amazing, it’s been eye opening. I’ve learned things today and I know everyone who watched this did. Would you like to leave everyone with a parting thought?
Warren: You know, I think I kinda hit the nail on the head. You need to take health into your own hands—no one is going to do it for you, there’s no insurance, that’s disease care. You’re not lacking drugs in your body to fix your condition. So if you go to your doctor and say, “Hey I’m not feeling well, I have diabetes.” …“Well you’re lacking this amount of drug in your body and that’s going to fix it.” That’s not the case. Your body isn’t lacking more drugs, your body is lacking the 5R’s, and I’ll just get into R1. It’s lacking the ability to do what it’s called to do and what it’s designed to do perfectly in every way is that there’s something that’s causing it. So you need to remove the source, and the body will do the healing as chiropractors say (and I’m not a chiropractor—I work with a lot of chiropractors and coach them). If you remove the interference, the body will do the healing, that’s the principal, and if you follow that principal in your life, the magic will happen and it’s not easy so it’s not for the 97% of this world, it’s for the 3%er’s. And if you’re a 3%er and you take action and you want your life back, look into this. Find a Health Centers of the Future practitioner, find a doctor, interview him and see if he has the same philosophy that we do—the one that I just told you—that if you remove the interference your body does the healing. It’s not about a supplement, it’s not about a magic bullet, it’s about removing the interference and letting your body do the healing, that’s my parting thought. I appreciate you guys, I hope you have an amazing day, and anyone watching this video in the future, I hope you take action and be a 3%er.
David: Awesome, thank you Warren, and thank you everyone.
Warren: Take care.
Transcript of Episode 03: 5Rs of Cellular Healing and Detox with Dr. Pompa
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, PSc.D, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.
Warren: Hi. Looks like we’re live. David: We are live. Hi Warren, hi Dr. Pompa. Dr. Pompa: Hello. Warren: Cellular Healing TV. Sorry about the delay, this is a new technology that we’re gonna be doing from now until forever. We wanna open up this call, we have conversation live through this site right now where you can ask questions and build content that you’d wanna hear in the future. So we’re really excited to launch it, we just branded it, Cellular Healing dot TV with Dr. Dan Pompa and my cohost Dr. David—I mean David Asarnow David: I guess I hang out with you guys so much and some of the docs call me doc. I go to all the practitioner training, it’s all the rage and everyone is clamoring to learn, so I’ll take the honorary doc, how about that? Warren: Alright, an honorary. So because this is just our new show, we did a couple test runs the last couple of weeks at 10am every Friday and this one, it’s Cellular Healing TV—That’s our core, that’s our mission, that’s the message God’s given us to the world—that’s if you heal the cell you do get well and it’s not your genetics, it’s not that you need more medication, or that your body’s lacking medications, but you need to heal the cell to get well, you need to remove the cause. So, Dr. Pompa before we even get into some of the great topics there’s a lot of folks out there that just want to know what is the Cellular Healing dot TV, what is Cellular Healing? Can you define that for us? David: Well first of all, it’s all the rage right now, right? Warren: It is, yeah. David: So what is this rage called Cellular Healing? We’ve been getting lots of messages just from the first two shows that we had so let’s talk about why this is such a rage. Dr. Pompa: Yeah, it’s something that has really gone crazy, you know, obviously because of the results that we’re getting. There’s so many people out there that are suffering right now, more and more hormone conditions, diabetes, and there’s so many people with more and more conditions and they’re not being helped, and look, I believe that you ask what cellular healing is and it really is why people are getting sick. It really boils down to what’s happening at the cell and I think that unless you’ve been living on a remote island somewhere everybody’s heard that inflammation is the cause of all of these conditions, whether it’s diabetes, thyroid, even cancer or why people can’t lose weight today, hormone disregulation, inflammation. When we think of inflammation, we think of a sore shoulder or a twisted ankle or something, and that is inflammation. However, the real inflammation that they’re really talking about is the cellular inflammation and how it disrupts the function of the cell. Look, every one of us have fifty to seventy trillion cells in our body but it really directs every thing that we do—how you feel, how you think, how you digest food… every organ system has different types of cells. When we start to not feel well, it really means that our cells are not working well. So that’s why the mantra “Fix the cell, get well” really is honing in on the real problem. So yeah, inflammation of the cell is the problem, but I know to most people listening that doesn’t mean anything, but all I can tell you without teaching you cellular biology, is that your cell dictates how long you will live, it dictates how healthy you live, it dictates every aspect of your life. If you’re not feeling well right now, you’ve got a cellular issue. There’s just been so many huge breakthroughs in science right now that we know what’s going on at the cell, so really this new science is something that we’re teaching, and this is why I know we’re ahead of the curve on this as far as what we’re doing with so many people who don’t feel well. David: Yeah, so let’s talk a little bit further about this, because I’ve had the honor to be in the audience while you’re teaching practitioners, medical doctors, dentists, naturopaths, health coaches… They are literally coming from all over the country and now we have people nationally that are reaching out to learn these protocols that you’re teaching. Why is this? Why is this the case? Dr. Pompa: Honestly, cellular healing is the rage right now because it works, right? I see people from all over the world. I have two today—one from Australia, and one somewhere else… oh gosh, somewhere in Europe—but the point is, this is something that people are understanding more, and again if you don’t understand the concept of cellular healing or you haven’t heard of it, you will, because it does work and I honestly think, David, that’s why people are gravitating to it. I think that practitioners are understanding now that this is what they need to get people well today. They need the understanding of epigenetics and how your genes can be turned on for “bad” and now all of a sudden you have a thyroid condition or an autoimmune condition or your immune system’s attacking itself and you say, “What happened? Why is this happening?” At least when I was growing up you didn’t see a lot of these conditions. Type two diabetes, we called it adult onset. You can’t call it that anymore because kids are getting it. So what’s going on? Well we know that certain genes are getting triggered because we have this influx of new toxins that we were never exposed to before that have the ability to enter into our cell and literally change the way that your genes are expressing themselves. If you don’t apply this to whatever you’re doing—trying to get well yourself, or, if you’re a practitioner listening, trying to get people well—without understanding the concept of turning those genes on or off. The great news is we can change them for “good.” It’s all over the literature. We talk a lot, David, and we probably might have time or we’re gonna get into this next time, but how we’re utilizing intermittent fasting even to change DNA and to change gene function and to really down regulate this cellular inflammation. But it’s that understanding that people are reaching out for, David, patients are and practitioners are. David: You know it’s funny that you bring this up. I’m actually (you can tell) not in my normal background, I’m in New Jersey right now… Dr. Pompa: I thought we were gonna start a kitchen thing. David: I’m doing a cooking show next, right? I was out last night to dinner with my dad and my step mom and they were actually talking about this. 23 years ago I was diagnosed with an autoimmune condition and they remember they thought it was lupus that I was diagnosed with but the doctor said that it could be lupus or arthritis. I was 22 years old and I had all these challenges and today we were talking about it and I was saying I’m healthier today than I was 23 years ago and you brought up intermittent fasting, so Warren, I know you had some other topics, but I know we talked about changing gene expression, we talked about healing the cell. Warren, you’ve had a personal experience with this as well. Warren: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, cellular healing is what gave me my life back and it’s what’s put us on the mission and it’s neat how things develop over time and Dr. Pompa and I had this in our last Google+ interview that Dr. Pompa couldn’t get on because of technology but I did share my story. So you can go back and go to our YouTube channel, just type in Dr. Dan Pompa and you’ll pull up his YouTube channel. Then subscribe to our YouTube channel and then go to our previous videos, those videos are auto posted every week so these hangouts will be posted on CellularHealing.TV for a week and then once we do a new hangout the only place you can find the video is on YouTube so after this call, it will be recorded live, and you can go back and re-watch some of the things we share. So that’s why we’re going to do this, and we’re gonna do it consistently because it’s a message that transformed my life and I got to see it clinically when I worked with Dr. Pompa in the clinic I used to even actually see some of his clients as I sat down with him and worked with him helping patients get well. That confidence really came in me so Dr. Pompa’s like, “You need to go do it, you need to transform lives” so I started seeing clients by myself for a while and then eventually I understood that my gifting is really in the marketing and the advertising and the technology to bring this message to the world and that’s why we have a group of doctors now across the country doing cellular healing, and that’s why it is the rage, because of the results that we’re getting. It transformed my life, I literally couldn’t even think, my memory was gone, weight gain, insomnia, I mean you name it I had it. I don’t wanna give you the details, go watch the video, but it transformed our lives. Dr. Pompa, there really is a road map to cellular healing that God has given to you as we’ve been working together over the last 8 years developing these protocols relentlessly, not because we wanted to—because we had to to get our own lives back, and when something like that touches you so deeply, and you know that it’s just not for you, that you’ve been given this information for a reason and a purpose, you pray about things, and it just gets downloaded. You see it all the time, like Lance Armstrong, he suffered with cancer and now he wants to go out there and talk about the recovery of it. How much more we would do with cellular healing that comes from the inside out instead of the outside in, not the allopathic way, but God’s way, from the inside out that healing principals. And really, God has, the protocol guide, the ones that God speaks to as far as the protocol side— that’s Dr. Pompa—and I walked hand in hand with him through this journey for or five years after he even started and traveled and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars getting this information. Dan, why don’t you walk them through (Dr. Dan) some of those strategies starting with R1 and cellular healing. Dr. Pompa: The 5R’s came about, I think this is what you’re asking, it came about because it is really difficult to describe what cellular healing is, you probably had that difficulty already. What do you mean, cellular healing? It’s just that we talk and you bring up the word “cell” and people tune you out because it’s biology, but when we realize that this has become a rage and it’s become bigger than we are and our message as well, we better think of better ways to communicate it. I struggle getting doctors to realize the concepts that need to be done to get these patients that they’re not able to get well well and I always say I’m not smart enough to come up with the 5R’s, it was too simple. So it’s a road-map now—it really started as a road-map for practitioners to know what to do to fix the cell to get patients well and now it’s become something that the public grabbed on to so again, you know it’s simple enough that the average person goes “hey, I get that.” And people started understanding it. R1 is simple—you have to remove the source. However simple, this is where most people go wrong—patients and practitioners alike. They don’t go upstream far enough to remove what caused the cell to disfunction in the first place or cause whatever symptoms they don’t like in the first place. Alternative doctors are simply giving more and more herbs or supplements and vitamins and then you have the allopathic doctors giving more medications and really nobody’s asking what’s going on upstream. Are you living in a moldy home, did you get bit by a tick, do you have these types of infections, do you have heavy metals that we talked about last time. Detoxing heavy metals is done wrong all the time. The bottom line is so few people are actually looking upstream, but if you remove the interference the body does have an inate ability to heal itself. It’s not a novel concept. So R1 is, in fact, removing that source—then you can change gene expression, then you can downregulate inflammation—but if those sources remain, I don’t care how many vitamins you take, I don’t care how many medications you take, you’re not going to get well permanently. David: It’s that street sweeper concept you were talking about. What most people do is they take all these vitamins and they take all these herbs and they try to go through a “cleanse” and they just start moving things throughout their body and they’re stirring it up and then they feel sicker, not getting better, right? Dr. Pompa: Yeah, absolutely, it’s a great analogy. Go back and watch that first google hangout, I think it was two ago, and we talked about detox and you’re right, David. It’s so funny because right after that call I was going down the highway and there was one of those street cleaners, honestly. (laughter) It was a major highway, too, on a major road. Anyways, dust was flying everywhere and it was hilarious because there it was. David: It was the visual representation of it. So for people who haven’t been here before and it’s their first time, we wanna welcome you. Let’s share with them. What is cellular detox, what is true cellular detox, what does that mean to someone who’s viewing right now? Dr. Pompa: We look at the 5R’s, and that’s, again, this road-map to these things that need to be fixed in the cell. Cellular detox is you can’t—look, everyone’s heard of liver cleanses, colon cleanses, the magnet cleanse. There’s a zillion of them out there, right? They become the rage, these things. This has become the rage. This is the real deal. It’s a lot different. When you look at those types of cleanses, they’re really not getting to the cell. If you’re not fixing these cellular functions, you’re never, ever, ever going to really get well and stay well. When we talk about cellular detox, we’re talking about getting certain cellular functions—for example, the cell membrane. When that cell membrane is still intact you could do all the liver and colon cleanses you want. Bottom line is, now you can’t get good things into the cell, and you can’t get the bad stuff out. These toxins are literally accumulating in the cell, from even the cell itself. If you burn a fire in your house, if the damper’s not working the smoke just keeps filling the house, everyone in it dies. That’s what’s happening in your cell. The membrane, the dampers, are shutting down, so the toxins that even the cell’s creating, like a fire, are not getting out. Guess what, now you start changing your gene expression. When we talk about cellular detox, we’re talking about 50 to 70 trillion cells working. They’re removing toxins, gene expression changes, cellular energy goes up. There’s pathways in the cell that are meant to remove toxins constantly, down regulate inflammation. If you don’t fix that, what good is the liver cleanse? You have to fix the cell membrane. By the way, R2, regenerating the cell membrane. There, I just explained why that has to occur. What we know now in science and new stuff is the cell membrane is what changes your gene expression. All these R’s are really interlinked, and that R3 is raising cellular energy, really bringing back cellular energy. If you don’t do that, you can’t do the most basic things of the cell. You can’t think clear. You can’t digest. Cellular energy, ATP, it’s huge. It’s some of the times the first thing we have to do with a very challenged patient. R2, regenerating the cell membrane. R3, restoring cellular energy. R4, of course, reducing cellular inflammation. We talked a lot about that. R5 is re-establishing methylation, which plays a role in getting rid of toxic and bad hormones, which plays a role in making serotonin. Yes, it plays a role in how you feel, depression. It plays a role in how your cell detoxes. That is an epidemic. It plays a role of how you adapt to stress. When you’re stressed out emotionally, you’re affecting your detox pathways. You’re affecting how your hormones work, because you can’t get rid of toxic hormones. It leads to cancer and more DNA problems. These 5R’s have to be established, fixed. Cellular repair has to occur to get well today. This is where the epidemic is. This is why people don’t feel well. Warren: Dr. Pompa, I know next week we’ll get into some specific topics of cellular healing and how that applies to different conditions such as diabetes, thyroid conditions. Autoimmune is a huge one. Also, heart disease, food allergies, a lot of these specific things and struggles that people are having. We’re going to give solutions. A neat thing we’re going to do on these calls, too, is we’re going to bring in live testimonies of other people walking through this. This technology allows us to reach out to so many of your clients across the country and other doctors we’re going to invite on these calls. There’s going to be some really great information. We’re going to wrap this up in the next few minutes. I want everybody to know, the site’s down that it goes to, but if you click below this video, as you’re watching this or coming back and watching this video on a replay, click the “Gain Access,” the green button down below this video. That’ll put you on an email list that reminds you every Friday about this call, and it’ll give you a link to the website, so you can either watch it live or go back and watch the replay. After it’s recorded, it’s up almost immediately. I just wanted to throw that out there. Dr. Pompa, one of the concepts I want to close with is, let’s focus a little bit more on R1. It’s one of those things, a point I think we should really drive home, is that if your cell gets sick and dies— let’s think about that. A lot of people have this different theories, Dr. Pompa. Let’s break one of these myths. Calories in, calories out. If I eat whatever I want, my cells are like little engines. They’ll burn up whatever like a furnace, and I’ll be fine. I can eat what I want as long as I run my engine hot. The hotter it is — it’s the furnace concept — I can burn anything, and I’ll be healthy. One way that you’ve—well, from my environmental background it’s like, okay, let’s think of the environmentalists out there that really understand this in an environmental way. Can we have an industry, can we have a nuclear power plant—like the Homer Simpson analogy? Can we have them dumping toxic waste into a pond, think of a cell as a pond, and it not affect the fish, and it not affect the genetics of the fish? It’s not going to affect the sediments. It’s not going to affect the ecosystem of that pond, which represents the cell. How can we think for a second that what we put in our mouth, what we breathe, what we take even through our eyes, through fumes or the amalgam fillings in our mouth, how can we believe that those ponds are going to just be able to process that toxin, those foods, those preservatives, and it’s going to be fine? Dr. Pompa, debunk that. I really want to just send them home with that before we move into our next topic next week. Dr. Pompa: I think there’s multiple questions in there, so I’m not sure which way to come at it. First of all, the more fuel you burn—the calorie in thing, the being able to eat whatever I want, take whatever I want, I’m just going to burn it—remember, the more you’re burning, the more toxins you’re actually even making. If your cell is not working, if your cell membrane’s inflamed, you’re going to be actually creating more energy, which creates more pollution that you’re not able to get out of the cell. Remember, every little mitochondria in your cell that creates energy, they’re little mini factories. Great, you can fire those up and have all this great energy coming out, but if you’re creating more pollution in the cell and if the cell membrane is inflamed, because toxins are the number one reason why it inflames—so if you’re taking in these toxins, they’re driving cell membrane inflammation. Therefore, your cells are becoming more polluted. Warren: Eating a candy bar and then going and running it off isn’t going to work? Dr. Pompa: That’s why I said there was multiple questions there. That was one thing. That’s one myth that people think is going to happen. The problem with that is that you eat candy bars, you eat candy bars, your body can only take in so much stored sugar. It can only store so many things. You only have so many closets to put your clothes in. Then once you keep buying more clothes, now you have to put them somewhere else, and that’s called fat, right? Now, all of a sudden, you’re storing everything. Sugar becomes stored as fat very easily. It’s very easy to fill up your glycogens, which is stored sugar. Now you’re storing everything as fat. Now, if you hormonally don’t have the ability to burn the fat, guess what? Now your body gives you cravings, because all it wants is sugar. That’s the only thing it can burn. It takes a certain hormone like leptin for your body to be able to hear to burn that fat. 80% of the population doesn’t have the ability to do that efficiently anymore. Anytime you eat the candy bar, you’re storing fat. You might burn some of it, but eventually, the next candy bar—forget about the candy bar, it’s the next piece of bread. Then the next grain, then the next bowl of oatmeal, or the next healthy, whole-grain bread that you eat, everything’s being turned to sugar and stored as fat. Now you don’t have the ability to access it. It was like me with this call. I didn’t have the accessibility, so I was unable to get on. That’s your fat stores. That’s most people. You don’t have the access code and you’re making more of it, so you’re getting fatter. You’re wondering why you can’t get thinner, despite what you eat, because you don’t have access to your fat. You don’t have the ability to burn it. Really, that is a myth. Toxins have a lot to do with that, because it’s driving cellular inflammation, blunting the receptor to these hormones that you need to communicate with to be a fat burner. We opened up Pandora’s Box there, because I know that people are semi-confused on what I just said, but weight loss resistance, that’s a whole show, guys. David: That’s actually a great topic for next week, isn’t it? Warren: Yeah, let’s go there. To sum it up, Dr. Pompa, you’re talking about R1 and removing the source. The source could be, that causes the cell to inflame and become toxic, it could actually be the foods that you’re bringing in. They all work together. If the toxins have caused inflammation on a cell membrane, even when you’re bringing in your foods and you’re processing the sugars, it’s going to make it even more toxic, because there’s an inflamed cell membrane. Those are some of the big sources. Toxins, your diet, and then obviously, a third—three takeaways that cause major sources of inflammation and really make that cell get well. Dr. Pompa: Toxins today are number one, but diet plays a role at two of the main ones. A lot of these bad fats people are eating—again, that’s another show. Warren: That’s another show. Dr. Pompa: Saturated fats and cholesterols aren’t bad guys. I’m going to tell you right now, it’s the two fats we need to fix the cell. I know I just shocked some of you out there already. Really, it’s the vegetable oils, the fats that our government is promoting—polyunsaturated fatty acids extracted from sources like vegetables, vegetable oil—I have no problem with vegetable oil, as long as it’s in a vegetable. As soon as it’s brought out and it’s in our potato chips and pretzels and breads and everything we’re eating and our families are eating, it’s denatured oil that makes its way right to the cell. Fat attracts fat, drives inflammation. Of course, the big one is, every time you raise glucose and insulin, you’re driving inflammation throughout your body. That’s why diabetics die early. That’s why they have degenerative diseases. Listen, the average American, 99% of people in this country, yes, even the skinny folk walking around, they have elevated glucose and insulin. If you want to age faster than anyone you know at the cellular level, the outside, the inside, you raise up your glucose and insulin. I’m almost 50 now. I feel better now, I look younger now, than I did even some years ago. Really, because why? You control glucose and insulin—and Warren, we’ve been practicing that, David, you’ve been practicing that as of lately, and you’ve lost a lot of weight because of it—but you age much slower. Again, anti-aging, all the crap that’s out there, we need to do a show on, because there’s some major things people can be doing to age slower. Not just here, but inside your body at every cell. That’s what’s key. We’ll talk about telomeres. Really, the only biological clock we know of. The shorter it gets, the faster you age, and the closer you get to death. In so many people, that’s happening prematurely. We can do a test and look at how short these telomeres are. You can be 50 years old and at the cellular level, be an 80 year old because of the length of these telomeres. You’re close to death and you don’t even know it. I want to bring some of those concepts out to our audience. David: Love it. I’m writing notes, by the way, for future shows, since you keep bringing up topics. Dr. Pompa: That’s great. Warren: I know we need to wrap this up. David, I know that we need to keep these calls at 30 minutes. That’s the co-hosting schedule here. We’re getting to get better and better at these. I think the theme is, from this last even ten minutes, is that we need to keep doing these shows. There’s a lot of topics and things that we want to share with the world. You need to come back at 10:00 am. You need to share this. If you’re watching this link right now and you just watched the replay, share CellularHealing.tv or just click above and copy and paste the URL that you see there, copy and re-paste it on your Facebook account and share it with people. Email it out. Say, hey, if you want to make a difference, you want to be a health advocate, you want to spread truth and real results and real solutions for this epidemic that’s going across America—people are dying out there. We want it to be controversial. Think about it. Does the government care about your health? Do they truly care about your health? Who should take control of your own health? It’s you. It’s a system. It’s a business. Pharmaceutical companies aren’t sitting around, “I just want to transform lives today. I want to help people today. I want to make a difference today.” What the reality is? “Oh, we just had a one billion dollar lawsuit. It doesn’t matter. That made us $12 billion. We have $11 billion profit this year, even though we had to pay off a billion in lawsuits because we killed people. We actually told them about it on a TV show, but they did it anyway, because they emotionally bought into hope that’s false.” We want to give real results, real hope, and real answers. Dr. Pompa has a lot of those answers, and other experts we’re going to bring on. We have the best co-host on the planet with David Asarnow. He’s incredible. He’s world-renowned for doing things like this. He’s actually the brainchild of putting this all together and helping Dr. Pompa and I on this mission to get it out there. We love you guys. We’re so thankful you spent time to watch this today. David, Dr. Pompa, we’ll see you next week. David: See you next week. Thanks, guys. Dr. Pompa: Yeah, thank you. Warren: Great show.